>OTOH I've seen advice from some sources (don't remember where) >not to use cross junctions because they mean a missed dot can >hugely change the meaning. This is probablly less of an issue >with computer draw schematics though. It has always been an in-house rule wherever I have worked. The reason is that schematics are often reduced in size for publication (even when it is only for the in-house servicing department) and having joining wires as a T junction always does mean that a wire crossing another is never confused as a junction. Yes using CAD packages takes the uncertainty out of generating the schematic, but the rule is still applied for human reasons. For the original poster, I am quite happy with the capacitor/crystal arrangement in the second schematic, but would typically not have the long 'wire' from the processor supply bypass capacitor - I would use a seperate earth symbol for that. The two capacitors for the crystal would then have their own earth symbol. The other beef I would have is that for unpolarised capacitors I expect two parallel lines, the symbol you have used I assocoaiate with polarised capacitors. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist