[OT]:: Traffic Experiences. :: <-- Re: [TECH] Led light too "cold" > I did the same thing Russell did, except it was in Guangzhou during > the 1980s. > That is .... cross a one-way street with thousands of cars, scooters , > bikes , etc. parting around us. Studied disregard is an art form in Chinese driving. It varies with geography. But, looking at someone shows you know they are there and begins a dominance game. Not looking at them at all (apparently) means you aren't taking any notice of them and will thus proceed as if they don't exist. When everyone does it it's impressive and, surprisingly to 'western' brains, seems to work. I have photos of people on a pedestrian crossing at an intersection with cars either side which are in both cases travelling on the "wrong" side of the road past each other and around the pedestrians. This was by no means uncommon but I didn't get many photos of it happening. Having vehicles travel for various distances against traffic flow was common - especially when entering busy traffic from a hotel etc. Small vehicles (motorcycles, bicycles, 3 wheeled miscellanea) might travel for indefinite distances near the curb and against the main flow. I have seen cars edging onto crossings with numerous people on them, with the driver vigorously blowing their horn to chase the miscreants away, even though the road beyond the crossing is blocked enough that they will not be able to go far at all once they get over the crossing. (One such incident, which I have on video, was outside the Shanghai tower, so its not just a small town thing). I rode around Beijing for 2 days on a bicycle (one handed mostly, camera in right hand, photos on the fly). You get a very good feel for the traffic 'laws' very quickly that way :-) - or else. The use of the horn varies very considerably with area. In eg Qingdao it announces continually that you are death incarnate and are going to take every piece of road available and unavailable. In Beijing it was usually more a loud but almost polite warning that death loomed if you chose to turn in an unwise direction and that you really really shouldn't, In Shanghai I can't remember an overall character but sat on a bus as a (lady) bus driver using force of will and sheer continual brain shattering acoustic power drove, over several minutes, in great fury, a small streetful of cars backwards some tens of metres so that the bus could make it's presumably rightful way up a street against their prior flow. In Guilin our driver used the horn continually but in short polite almost apologetic bursts to warn, very reasonably, every pedestrian cyclist, trishaw driver, dog, goat, chicken, and water buffalo that we were about to enter their environs and that they should not stray from their path while we passed. None did. In Qingdao I was involved, as a passenger, in one minor vehicle accident where I think the other driver ran a very red light, but who can be sure, and people argued loudly for many minutes over who was in the right. All that said, the Chinese traffic system is far more efficient at handling cars than eg here in New Zealand, or even than in Hong Kong. I'd estimate that they can almost double road throughput compared to ours. And the accident rate seems reasonable considering the sheer volume. Interestingly, just across the border in Hong Kong (one country, two systems, they tell you) the traffic, road rules and behaviour are almost indistinguishable from in NZ. Here, unlike in China proper, you drive (as in the UK and Singapore and Australia and NZ)(the sun never sets on the British Empire) on the left, and very largely can expect a pedestrian crossing or red or green traffic light, stop sign, yellow lines, or no parking sign to function as the formal rules suggest, do not meet a stream of traffic driving for variable distances against the flow on the "other side" of the road, hear horns only seldom, and see almost zero vehicles with 3 wheels (powered or pedal). Utterly unlike China proper and even less than NZ HK has very few bicycles and even has surprisingly few motorcycles. Macau, an hour by Ferry down the bay, and soon enough to be 40 minutes away by 50 kilometre ocean bridge (!), once proudly Portugese still redolent with almost as many signs in that language as HK has in English, and also a two systems one country enclave, has a traffic system somewhere between HK's and the mainland's. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Russell -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist