>> from a good refit, clean and resolder >> > Having done a fair bit of repair, this sounds somewhat risky to me... I agree, although they haven't a lot to lose by at least trying. At the moment they are renting a machine, at quite some expense, and to buy a new one will give their accountant palpitations > Yes, cleaning, adding a bit of flux, and reheating all/most of the > joints sounds like a plan (don't forget the flux to help clean up > oxides)... > > But seriously dismantling a circuit which sounds as seriously put > together as this sounds like asking for a trace lift or similar, unless > you are *very* skilled and *very* careful Generally it's put together solidly but only those transistors are hard to get at. After a little more research into how ultrasonic welders work these may be less like audio power types and perhaps more like high- voltage TV or monitor line output transistors > Plus, replacing semis 'just because' doesn't seem to me to be very > useful - who is to say the newer ones are any better than the old ones > Last I checked, semiconductors generally do not wear out... unless > they are stressed beyond their design parameters Well, you could be right, and I suppose (without knowing its service history, specs or schematic) that if it's gone 26 years without a problem then components probably are comfortably rated. Everything looks original, no apparent board scorching although a couple of power resistors look very much the worse for wear. All ICs are socketed so I'll check for bad contacts and so on. The whole back compartment of the case containing the primary power supply was full, I mean full, of fluff and dust blown in by the fan, so it could even be as simple as poor ventilation > Now replacing any electrolytic caps on the board (and anything else > which truly will age), that sounds like a plan (and could very well be > your issue with that old of a unit) Yes, I have been looking at the caps. Both the electrolytics and non- polarised are all the old-style pig-tail mount, very large physically for their capacity. I note in the vintage radio articles in electronics mags that the capacitors are the first suspects and the components most likely to be replaced routinely > In regards to your mystery part... I did do a bit of searching and > didn't come up with a helpful cross for that part. Thought there might > be an old SGS transistor book in my library, but no luck ... Never mind, thanks for looking -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist