> Although you are pressing the political button a little harder than I > approve of ... As that appears to be an admin comment on-list I'll comment on it on list. I agree with Bob that critical allusion to US government action (or to many but not all other government's actions :-) ) on-list is something the PICList rules say should not be done - and that the rules should be followed, as long experience shows that failure to do so often rapidly leads to undesirable reuslts. It's only a very very short hop (possibly next-reply close) to political partisan comment and a firestorm. So, it seems inadvisable for Vitaly to have made a comment of that sort and it would be useful if others don't do so so that we can continue to investigate an interesting technical subject, while being aware that there are political aspects that we have all agreed not to discuss. However, I do feel that Vitaliy may have felt that the way that that request was put, as more of a rebuff than may have been meant and/or than was deserved. It would arguably have been useful in the spirit of the season (whatever that may be :-) ) to be really laid back with such advice. Most of us manage to read between the lines on such occasions :-). eg only "It would be appreciated if people don't mention politics specifically, as laid down in the list rules. If any critical comment directly relate to the action of a party or government then it is very likely that someone else will express an opposite point of view and in no time at all the discussion is liable to turn into a political bunfight and an interesting thread will need to be shut down" or something like that. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist