> >> Mind you, if you can adequately bring to people's notice the fact that
> >> burning petrol stations result in the release of the dread substance
> >> CO2 =A0into the air, then you may well be able to engender an equally
> >> irrational response.
> >
> > ROFL!!! >:D
>
> May I also point out the amount of flammable and earth-warming
> tetra-hydrogen-carbon output by bovine flatulence as well as the
> omnipresence of the lethal and odourless fluid dihydrogen-monoxide?
>
> www.dhmo.org

While much mirth has been generated by overhyping the toxicity of DHM
(which has an LD50 in the 1000's of grams range) it is seldom noted
that it is by far the largest greenhouse gas [tm], exceeding in net
effect all the others combined. If DHM could be eliminated from the
atmosphere then it is certain that any amount of CO2 and CH4 could be
released with impunity. Even Mann, Jones and Biffa wouuld probably
agree with this. Whether Hansen would is moot, but seems unlikely.

Methyl-hydride (please use systematic naming conventions) is easily
dealt with by oxidation to form the previopusly mentioned GHGs. While
the net effect is still GHG positive, this process results in a very
substantial effective GHG reduction. A cautionary note: While at
present such a reduction would be in line with extant
AGW-real-politik, the continuing low ebb of SSC 24 and the increasing
similarities with the environment of the Maunder minimum, and the now
2000 year odd overdue onset of the next "ice age", make it at least
"very likely" (as defined by IPCC) that a few decades from now carbon
credits will be able to be acquired by combining C and Hydrogen to
form Methyl Hydride and releasing them. Similarly, Shale Oil beds
which have to then proved economically unnattractive due to high
extraction overheads will probably be attractive for combustion in
situ for direct CO2 production or possibly with adjustment of Oxygen
ratio to also form fine particulate carbon for planetary albedo
modification. As a significant amount of Shale oil resources are found
in high lattitude locations, careful seasonal timing of combustion and
carbon production could be used to maximise ice melt to help restiore
falling sealevels.

However, overall the probable inability of man to noticeably influence
long term climate cycles in many manner at all will ensure that from
some time in the next century onwards we will not need to be concerned
about glacial retreat for about the next 90,000 years.


                _Russell

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