I currently own a copy of PADs 3.6 that has PowerPCB and PowerLogic It is very outdated. It will cost me over 800.00 to get back on maintenance and that offer expires at the end of the month. Any recommendation for PCB layout tools? I would like to keep my cost down and keep future costs down. I probably do 3-6 PCBs a year. Any advise from people who have used professional packages and gone to the low cost route would be very appreciated. Best regards, Giles Honeycutt -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist