> Gee - What a surprise... Poor taste on the PIC list. I didn't see that as poor taste. More humor with a less than fully correct message. The people who built it were having fun - whatever it was, and were to some extent laughing at themselves. The US has been able to 'buy' big science but Russia and the erstwhile USSR have always done exceptionally well both with absolute science and science per $ and in the engineering spinoffs. One example of many, albeit a more visible one than many - one of the US's most successful workhorse satellite launchers has gone to orbit for years now on Russian / Soviet built engines, which proved superior technically to what "The West" was able to easily build and, for various reasons, far more cost effective. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_V http://www.npoenergomash.ru/eng/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPO_Energomash Another example, which peer-ing into globes suggests is liable to prove increasingly visible over the next lets say two years as the just starting real-science shakeout/correction gathers momentum and science gets back on track - current Russian climate science show signs of, on average, being very significantly superior to that of "The West". Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist