I am such a goose and felt the need to tell someone, everyone. For sometime now I have occasionally had issues where running notepad2 and Firefox gave the appearance of refusing to restore or maximise, just showing up in the taskbar. I tried uninstalling, registry hacking, googling. The only fix has been to re-install OS. (I tend to do this often) Finally (just now) it occurred to me that I also occasionally connect an additional monitor and suspected that they had set themselves to default to the second screen. I just reconnected my second monitor and there it was, notepad2 smiling smugly back at me. I can now move on. Justin -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist