On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:31 AM, Tamas Rudnai wrote: > You do not know the right pressure till you skid.. Ahh. The key point. In the good old days, if you were likely to need "fancy braking skills", you would probably have the opportunity to PRACTICE (either intentionally or in real-life situations) in situations where you could skid out-of-control (or not) without massive destruction or injuries. Thanks to increasing urbanization, population densities, and traffic levels, the first time you run into an emergency braking situation is likely to be when you REALLY NEED THINGS TO WORK. I don't have a lot of experience, but I gotta say that it most cases, I'd vastly prefer somewhat longer braking distance over the complete loss of control you get once you lose contact with the "road"... (Probably ABS comes into play more often in non-emergency braking situations; those cases where you step on the brakes to slow down and the roads are so slippery that you lose traction (and steering ability.)) (It seems to me that even if you retain control, it's going to take some experience and quick thinking to USE that control to avoid accidents. I've seen people swerve onto a shoulder during somewhat strong braking maneuvers in traffic. I haven't decided whether they're idiots or whether they've been taught a technique that I wasn't...) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist