I'd guess that reputation is based on the Falklands war, since there hasn't been any significant air-air action since then. IIRC the US rushed practically the entire world's inventory of the new AIM-9L to the Brits, and it was deadly against the Argentine A4's. Excellent book on the subject is 'Air War: South Atlantic'. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Chris McSweeny wrote: > I do in general agree with you, not just because I live in the same > country as Rolls Royce (and in one work placement years ago, did have > a peripheral involvement in Pegasus engine stuff). > > Genuine VTOL not only eats into the fuel supply, but also tends to > limit payload (certainly the case for the Harrier - I presume the F-35 > is pretty similar). Hence why it's the STOL capability which is made > most use of. If you were to dogfight, then vectored thrust also helps > a lot (reputedly Harriers are still the World's premier dog-fighters) > - of course nowadays dog-fighting isn't a normal thing to do! > > Chris > > ---------------------------------------------- > Gary A. Crowell Sr., P.E., CID+ > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist