Assuming you're including the vectored thrust stuff as part of "engine", then that's quite a significant part of the control of the flight envelope! It all kind of gets a bit silly though, as you could argue that all aircraft are an Italian design if you want to go back far enough ;) Chris On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Sean Breheny wrote: > Other than the engine, where does it say that the F-35 is a British desig= n? > > Sean > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Russell McMahon wr= ote: >> Now I have your attention ... :-). >> While that subject line is only part of a larger truth, it is interestin= g to >> see a design based solidly on a UK aircraft replacing the F16 (from 2013= ), >> A-10 Thunderbolt-II "Warthog" (from 2028), AV8-B (to which it is the 'big >> brother'). FA-18 & EA6B. are also mentioned with no other details. >> >> Who is this masked man, and how can one claim it to be British in origin? >> >> It's the Lockheed Martin (so far so good), F-35 (sounds reassuring), >> Lightning II (whoops), Stealth (OK), STOVL (Ah), in A / B / C variants. = The >> A variant is conventional. The B variant has a Rolls Royce fan unit spaw= ned >> from the original VTOL Harrier and can take off vertically and, if desir= ed, >> fly backwards (aka viffing). The C variant is a Navy only and carrier >> optimised. >> >> >> http://www.gizmag.com/lockheed-martin-f-35b-lightning-ii-stovl/13373/?ut= m_source=3DGizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=3D1a3791aeff-UA-2235360-4&utm_me= dium=3Demail >> >> Brings back memories of other initially UK designs which are subsequently >> thought of as US creations, such as the Mustang fighter and Sherman tank. >> (Flame shields up). >> >> FWIW I'd have the most severe reservations about trying to replace an A10 >> with anything like the A-35. I'd go so far as to suggest that the planne= rs >> had lost the plot. Unless they have decided to use a whole new class of >> munitions that go where the aircraft doesn't (and that's entirely possib= le) >> then there is no way that this aircraft can survive in worst case A10 >> survival situations. The A-10 is not really an aircraft at all in the no= rmal >> sense - it's a tiitanium bathtub with two engines, two wings, and two re= ar >> control surfaces attached (ignoring mentioning a gun as big as a flatdeck >> railroad car). You can shoot off or otherwise remove one of everything a= nd >> still have a fair chance of it coming home by itself. But, even if the >> aircraft becomes a standoff delivery system that stays "out of harms way" >> there are going to be niches that the A10 fills which an A-35 can't. At >> least they have 19 years to change their mind. >> >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Russell >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist