On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Vitaliy wrote: > to keep the battery in good shape. I have a number of those rechargeable emergency lights; things that plug into the wall, and turn on if the power goes off, and/or become flashlights. Nice when they're needed; it gets very dark here when the power goes off. Internally they have a NiCd battery (2*AA, usually) and some simple circuitry to keep the NiCd charged and detect outages. I've recently been contemplating the thought that these would work better (as emergency lights) if the battery were NOT rechargeable. That is, it seems to me that the useful shelf life of a primary lithium battery is at least as long as the useful lifetime of a NiCd battery in anything but the most carefully designed continuous charging circuit. Perhaps quite a bit longer (though comparing NiCd + circuitry of questionable quality and design (as tends to happen with mass-produced consumer items) with Lithium battery + circuitry of questionable quality makes it a pretty complex question... The equation might change if you regularly use these as flashlights (but most make crappy flashlights.) The latest versions of these lights claim to contain LiIon batteries (and uses LEDs.) I guess that solves some problems (especially with charging) and introduces others (what happened to that oft-rumored 2-y life of LiION cells (used or not.)) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist