I got a few Kontron ETX boards I want to play with but, before working on the final layout of the expansion board, I would really save time by working with an ETX carrier board which expose all the standard connectors USB, RJ45, etc My understanding is any ETX carrier board works with any ETX board, at least in theory. If you have one of any brand laying around with no use and want to sell it for a fair price please contact me offlist ( arocholl @ gmail.com ). BTW brand new ETX carrier boards from vendors like Kontron are too expensive for the budget of this project. Thanks -- Ariel Rocholl Madrid, Spain -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist