John Coppens schrieb: > Hello guys... > = > Can anyone give me the correct name to look for? I'm trying to find the > specs for those last-100m-or-so outdoor phone cables, which are flat, > single pair, but with a center support wire. > = > They have a very tough (black) plastic (very difficult to make knots). = > = > I'm particularly interested in velocity factor (my ADSL is failing, and > the phone techs can't seem to locate the fault - or they don't want to). > = > I seem to miss the correct terms to guide google. It doesn't help that > phone cables are used for everything nowadays. > = > John The velocity factor depends on the used material - if it is = PVC--insulated material, the speed is around 176 m/=B5s, if it is PE the = speed is around 204 m/=B5s. This speed depends mostly on the capacity of = the wires against each other and ground and the Epsilon-r of the used = isolating material. In Europe the Telcos use mostly filled cables (isoparaffine) with PE = foam coated copper, this speed is around 196 m/=B5s. Regards Enrico -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist