28AWG is really thin, we uses cat 3 cable to make all our RJ12 programming cables, which are 22/24AWG, they are slightly bigger but very hard to bend at 6 inch length. Funny N. Au Group Electronics, http://www.AuElectronics.com http://www.AuElectronics.com/products http://augroups.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ From: Bob Axtell To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 2:21:55 PM Subject: Re: [PIC] MPLAB8.36 Now Works W/ ICD2 > Bob Axtell wrote: >> what kind of little problems, Nick? I can now work all day without a >> reboot, that's an astonishing improvement. >> > Often after one or two hour the mplab can't find anymore the icd2. Never > worked a full day! > Switching from debugger and programmer also often I need to fully > disconnect the icd2. > Not big problem but annoying... > One problem that the ICD2 has (and ICD3, and "RealICE"), is that there is only one tiny #28guage GND wire connecting the unit being debugged to the ICD2/ICD3, etc. One #28AWG wire does NOT a GND make. A stout #18 test clip soldered inside the ICD2 to GND helps immensely to reduce GND noise. Have you tried that? believe me, it helps. --Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist