> It would make a great deal of sense for them to put all the > intelligent electronics in the base/power station (including the > standby, power switches, remote control receiver, etc) so they can > completely depower the display (and the associated energy loss) during > "standby". > > There are other ways they can reduce the standby cost while still > providing the same consumer experience. My point was, and formula was meant to quantify, that the additional energy loss DURING OPERATION was the equivalent of adding a standby energy load of around 5 Watts continuous for every 100 Watt load when used. ie even if it draws zero standby energy the % losses during operation are so high that a a corded system would have to have an exceptionally high standby power level to match its overall energy use. Actual standby losses add to this. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist