Analog Devices has some interface chips with built in isolated DC to DC converters. Their EIA485 devices are at http://www.analog.com/en/interface/rs-485/products/index.html . Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com - Advertising opportunities available! -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist