My parents are in a company called Lightyear Wireless -- they sell a *really * good VOIP product: http://www.house.mywirelessrep.com/voip.html I believe it costs $25 a month. We use it at our house, and most of our relatives have purchased boxes from us. It works very well. Nathan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist