>I see. Actually the best thing would be if magicJack would not need a PC, >right? Right. I knew magicJack has being working on this standalone device concept for quite a long time, but they didn't announce any products yet. Cost and performance would be the major challenge for this design. (The owner of the company is famous in providing good telecommunication service at a fair price. ) The current magicJack was designed as an cell phone extension (most likely business users), when people enters a building (some time, the cell signal is weak in the buildings here in north America) which has wifi or internet, the cell user can then forward all cell phone incoming calls to their magicJack phone number. It wasn't designed to replace regular land line phone at all. (Though the market study from MJ shows there are a high take rate on replacing land line phones and unusual high take rate from people >55 years old, the 2nd result is unexpected.) >This is important to me as I live here in Ireland, >my younger sister in Luxembourg, my elder one + parents + friends are back >in Hungary so without this it would be kind of hard to keep in touch with >them. I see. This would be a bit harder when using magicJack, which requires each one of your family owns a magicJack device. I do see some oversea online business owner like the MJ device, which makes them easy to call their north America customer without a worry of high phone bills, and their customer can make a direct phone call to MJ phone number too. >If I understand the MJUSB device is only as an extra for use an ordinary >phone, but also you can use MJ without it? The device is a must have, it stores/initializes a PC program which makes phone calls on any internet connected computer. It also stores your USA phone number, major contact phone list, phone call histories, etc. >How do you use MJ anyway? There are 3 conditions must be met to use MJ service: 1. High speed internet, such as: wifi, dsl, cable internet, etc. 2. a PC 3. a magicJack device >Is your home computer on all the time, or you use it for >business so the office computer is on anyway during the office hours, or have it on a server >thatyou use for other purpose as well? I have seen people use it for home and business. As a matter of time, our business phone is a MJ phone number, when I am on business travel, I can always receive phone calls, check my voice mail, or call back customers when I settle down in a Hotel with Wifi connection (Free service in most North America hotels these days). All I have to bring is my laptop and my MJusb dongle (the MJ device you referred). Funny N. Au Group Electronics, http://www.AuElectronics.com http://www.AuElectronics.com/products http://augroups.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ From: Tamas Rudnai To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:45:54 AM Subject: Re: [OT]: What is the best VOIP service ? I see. Actually the best thing would be if magicJack would not need a PC, right? Because if that provides you a regular phone no. then your PC has to be constantly switched on if you want to be accessible pretty much as it was a regular phone. Anyway, I do not know if SkyPe will become a payed service or not, but at this time I have my mobile with SkyPe on it and pretty much I can use it free of charge (the only condition is to use KyPe on mobile is to topping up the mobile every month by at least 10 euros which then can be used for ordinary mobile calls). This is important to me as I live here in Ireland, my younger sister in Luxembourg, my elder one + parents + friends are back in Hungary so without this it would be kind of hard to keep in touch with them. Previously SkyPe (or other SIP service) was only on the computer so it had to organise the call or had to be lucky to get me online. If I understand the MJUSB device is only as an extra for use an ordinary phone, but also you can use MJ without it? How do you use MJ anyway? Is your home computer on all the time, or you use it for business so the office computer is on anyway during the office hours, or have it on a server that you use for other purpose as well? Thanks Tamas On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Funny NYPD wrote: > Indeed, I like the idea of no device. > The magicJack went a different approach, the external device will keep your > phone number and other phone number of contacts list, phone call histories, > etc. It includes a dsp engine which encodes voice in a better quality than > PC microphone. It is also used to connect a regular phone. > > I have used both regular phone and microphone, apparently, the voice > quality on regular phone is much better than the microphone over magicJack > service. I have hooked 4 regular phone on one magicJack at the same time > without an issue. When I talk, I am used to regular phone, which is better > than a PC speaker and microphone. > > Ebay is trying to spin off Skype, so how long that free VOIP service will > last, we will see. Another down point for skype is, it is hard to get > regular phone number, so local people cannot call you back. > > Funny N. > Au Group Electronics, http://www.AuElectronics.com > http://www.AuElectronics.com/products > http://augroups.blogspot.com/ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tamas Rudnai > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:19:42 PM > Subject: Re: [OT]: What is the best VOIP service ? > > Funny, > > I can't seem to understand why is this magicJack needs an external device > for their service? It still needs a computer anyway, so would not it be > better simply just install a software on that computer? (just like SkyPe) > > Thanks, > Tamas > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Funny NYPD wrote: > > > Greeting Bob, > > I feel sad that your MJ is broken. > > I have mine constantly located on top of my desktop by a good quality USB > > extension cable, the short cable comes in the package works but is not a > > high quality cable. The one comes with my USB thumb drive is longer, more > > flexible and has less voltage drop. My desktop only gets USB on the back > of > > the panel, so use a longer cable seem working better than the original > > cable. > > > > Actually you may contact magicJackonline support, I have send a private > > email to you with all the info we collected. Let us know what do you > find. > > > > For the moment, there is only online support available from magicJack. I > > hope they can improve their service better with such a good product > concept. > > > > I personally think it is one of the few voice communication innovation I > > haven't seen for many years. Even not count the three major highlights:, > a > > USA phone number, the price, and voice quality it provides. > > > > Funny N. > > Au Group Electronics, http://www.AuElectronics.com > > http://www.AuElectronics.com/products > > http://augroups.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bob Axtell > > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:02:25 PM > > Subject: Re: [OT]: What is the best VOIP service ? > > > > Unfortunately, my MJ fell out of its flash port and hit the floor, and > > I have not replaced it, nor have I located a place to send it for repair > > or replacement. Any ideas, Funny? > > > > Before I dropped it, the service was exemplary, much better than Vonage. > > > > --Bob A > > > > Funny NYPD wrote: > > > There are always pros and cons on VOIP. But it does worth a try for the > > money it saved. > > > Try magicJack for USD$19.95/year, not per month. With this yearly > > payment, You get a year of free long distance phone calls to any USA and > > Canada phone number. The voice quality is very good. And you get a USA > phone > > number no matter where you live, which will be useful if you live oversea > > but got business or relatives living in the USA or Canada. > > > > > > You can order the device from magicJack web directly if you are living > in > > USA or Canada. Or, you can order from our web site If you are living in > > Canada or anyplace out of USA. (we ship products all over the world, > > magicJack only sends devices to USA and Canada.): > > > http://www.auelectronics.com/products/service/magicjack.html > > > > > > There are some more info on our forum link:: > > > http://www.auelectronics.com/forum/index.php/topic,5.0.html > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > -- > http://www.mcuhobby.com > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.mcuhobby.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist