> In my youth, I dug trenches as a contractor for a phone company > and put down a bundle of 4 pvc pipes about 2" in diameter each > for fiber optic lines. My guess is that a lot of the phone line > traffic is moving over fiber without the lossy effects of copper > > - next question is how they transition from fiber to copper, > and I don't have a clue. As I recall, fiber optic cable runs from the central office to a SLIC (Subscriber Line Interface Circuit, Concentrator, etc). SLIC is remote box that is installed in a neighborhood. It is "owned" by the CO switching center. Fanout is copper pairs to the houses in that area. So DSL line limitations (18 kilofeet from memory) is from SLIC to subscriber premises. > The bigger question to me is how the phone wiring is laid out > vs. cable. Once upon a time I suppose you had one pair of wires > between your house and the pbx, but surely that's not possible now. In a lot of cases, that's still how it happens. Newer areas, the copper pairs run from premises to SLIC's copper interface. Rural areas have _much_ longer runs of plain copper back to some device that looks like part of a CO phone switch. Lee Jones -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist