Geo wrote: > Yes - if you can use right angle connectors it is often possible to > solder the pins top and bottom Problem is, all I've got in the way of connectors is: - a box full of 0.1in Molex KK connectors (the real ones, sourced from Digikey -- good to 2A, 250V if memory serves). No R/A connectors, all straight PCB and crimp-to-wire. - A couple of different sizes of PCB-mount terminal block. Again, not R/A. - Some really weird FPC/FFC connectors for an LCD display. - Some even weirder FPC/FFC connectors. SMD, with a really nutty voltage rating (15.3V or something like that -- yes the D/S lists the point-three) - Maybe a couple of 8-way FCi Clincher connectors (which work *really* nicely for the 0.1in-pitch print-head connectors on the Seiko MTP printer modules) - A valve base. B12A or something like that, to fit a DG7/32 CRT. I've got the CRT as well :) > otherwise just drill a hole and solder > a wire then trim it off to join the upper and lower layers. A standard DIY wire-via then. Basically what the track pins are, but somewhat less convenient. > It may be > necessary to widen the track slightly from that "via" to the connector > or device pin (or bend the "via" wire over and solder it along the last > couple of mm.) Indeed. Getting some 2oz board, or simply using more connectors may be an easier solution (except if I want 2oz FR4 blanks, I have to special-order them). Although a 10C temperature rise is pretty conservative -- I suspect the board could survive a 20C rise at ~60C ambient (which is probably roughly in line with the temperature in the box where the timer and switches are mounted, while the oven is operating). Hmm. -- Phil. piclist@philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist