A contractor told me today that concrete has a service life of 80 years. He said 40 years getting stronger and then 40 years of decline. This seems odd to me. I am looking at my dwelling that was built in 1908. The concrete foundation does not look like it is deteriorating. I recently cut a hole into the foundation and it was a b**ch. ( difficult ) What kind of lifetime can one expect from concrete that is exposed to temperature cycling such as Denver, CO ? What kind of lifetime can one expect from concrete that is underground ( 10 degrees C ) or inside a heated basement ? What sayest the august members of the PIClist ? What can be done to extend the life of existing concrete ? Best Gus -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist