Carlos I gotta say... you don't have any idea what is in my mind. I am 58 and I have had plenty of time to absorb the lessons of life and to choose which ones I will ignore. Some people cannot give up being nannies, psudeo-moms, busy-bodies who tell you to put on a jacket before you go outside. If I only had to listen to their ditherings , I could probably deal with it. Unfortunately, most nannies don't stop there. They gang together to make laws. You have to wear a seat belt. You have to wear a motorcycle helmet. You can't build a fence without government inspections. You can't take drugs without gatekeepers reviewing your dosage. You can't commit suicide. You can't assist a friend who wants to die. It is clear to me that I am smarter ( SMARTER ! ) than 99% of the human race/. While this is a low bar to clear, it has led me to two conclusions. #1 Nobody is smart enough to tell me how run my own life. #2 I am smart enough to realize other people's lives belong to them and I have no business mucking with them unless they invite me to. When I ask for advice about engineering and physics and science, I expect and anticipate intelligent and informed comments from PIClisters. When and if I ever require advice on whether to wear my coat when it is cold , I will go to nanny.com ................. When I want advice about breathing I will talk to my partner. Best to all the nannies Gus On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:51 AM, c.marcano@gmail.com wrote: I agree 100% with you Adam, and Gus, please take every word written by Adam as a great advice (althought it looks like you dont like them) and not as a preach. Regards, Carlos. Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar -----Original Message----- From: "M. Adam Davis" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:08:57 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [OT]: 1, 000, 000 volts at a gazillion amperes with one billion farads , 10 ohms of resistance and 200 henries of inductance Meh. We're engineers. If you want to have a discussion that has no warnings on it then don't start it here. We're trained not simply to solve problems, but to foresee the impact of our solutions prior to implementing them. If anything, we're more apt to give too much information than too little. Like any other source of information it's up to the reader to ignore the parts that don't apply to their situation and pay attention to the parts that do. Complaining to the author of the information that it wasn't helpful isn't going to yield any useful result. Generally it's better to provide more information specific to your situation so that those responding can narrow their focus down. Most of engineering is synthesizing new ideas based on experience and knowledge. Telling a group of engineers to ignore large parts of their experience and knowledge is hardly productive, and can be seen as mildly insulting - implying that what they know is of little worth, or flat out wrong. While it's not true that honey attracts more flies than vinegar*, it's still sound advice. -Adam * http://www.chrisnull.com/2007/10/20/ On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM, AGSCalabrese wrote: > Telling me that 1000 volts is dangerous is as silly as me > continuing this thread. Telling me that a flying machine is dangerous > is as ............ never mind. > Gus > >> On Aug 17, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Adam Field wrote: >> >> Why post about high voltages and flying machines if you are going to >> be insulted when someone reminds you that it's dangerous? This is >> quite UNLIKE the warning on foam coffee cups that reads "Caution: >> Hot." There are a lot of subscribers to this list, some coming from >> no >> electrical background at all. >> >> When someone tells you that something is dangerous: Don't be >> insulted, >> it is NOT a personal affront, it is a public service. >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist