Could you somehow detect an audio signal (some sort of mechanical click or something produced by the wheel) using a dsPIC or something like that? Or maybe even use an ultrasound transducer and receiver to pick up the spokes moving past? Overengineering FTW! -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist