Well, this was an appropriate thread - the element on my heater just failed this morning. Bottom one, of course. Draining the tank now, I'll post pictures if it looks like a spectacular failure. -- --- Chris Smolinski Black Cat Systems http://www.blackcatsystems.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist