The element in our hot water cylinder failed yesterday (didn't quite make its 19th birthday) and an electrician came today to replace it Looked OK on the outside. Clean, shiny. But, oh, the horrors on the inside. A little corroded. Just a little http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/element1.jpg http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/element2.jpg Looks like a nasty surgery thing I saw on Discovery This must be long-standing corrosion and it absolutely amazes me that it has taken until now to pop the circuit breaker. Surely the winding must have been wet before yesterday. After it dried, most of the filler just fell out. My nephew up north is doing an electrician's apprenticeship and says he sees that sort of breakdown regularly So I was chatting with the sparkie, as you do, and asked him why the damage was closer to the Active/Live connection. (you can see in the first picture that the damage pretty much stops where the element turns around, ie halfway between A and N). He couldn't say. He said that he asked once at college why, if the current is AC, that Active and Neutral aren't regarded as interchangeable. But the answer he got was "they just aren't" Anyway, I've wondered about it too. I've thrown out IEC leads, like on the kettle for example, because the Active connection has suffered heat and corrosion damage. I'd have thought that elements are more or less just resistive, nothing complicated wrt power for example Why does the corrosion happen that way ? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist