Sorry about that, wasn't thinking in that direction, maybe was brain dead at the time. I try very hard to remain ethical honest, and giving credit when due. My original question was, after refining , could I after purchasing the PICKIT 2, use the time limited refinements of C18 for an extended time, by registering, but after reading a couple of replies, realized that MPLAB, and the C18 compiler were separate packages, which slipped by me. >> I am Windows registry wise, can someone privately enlighten me. :) >> >> -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist