> #7 Super dream ...... I want flat packs strapped to the chest and back of the passengers that activate in free fall or manually to create a "fall ball" around the user that slows their descent to the ground and then provides adequate cushioning to stop them safely. Maybe a new sport. /> You can want ... :-). NB E&OE !!!!!!!!!!!! See my prior formula for terminal velocity of parachutes skydivers, bowling balls, field mice and raindrops. Correct assumptions have to be made, but it works quite well enough to get a feel for things.. 1. Parachute descent speed at sea level V ~~~~~~= sqrt(2.m.g/A) in mksA units. ie A = chute projected area in m^2. g ~= 9.8 m/s/s V = m/s />> Note that "to survive" 40 mph impact yuou need to reduce g forces to a level which is acceptable. Take 10g as an OK shock for a [properly oriented and padded person. The padding simply spreads the forces. 40 mph ~= 18 metre/second. 2. Distance = V^2/(2a) = 18^2//2/(9.8*10) = 1.65 metre. ie a linear 1.65 metre deceleration will slow a body from 40 mph to rest at 10g. ie you need about a 6 foot 'airbag' with linear deceleration to make you impact survivable. If you can tolerate 20g (getting 'rather unpleasant' you can halve that distance. Getting the deceleration linear and spreading the forces may be 'difficult' To get your 'fall ball' large enough to achieve that sped as a terminal velocity is another matter. using formula 1. above V ~~~~~~= sqrt(2.m.g/A) or A ~~= 2.m.g/V^2 Here V = 18, m = say 100 kg, g =~ 10 A =~ 6 m^2 per 100 kg to achieve 18 m/s or 40 mph. Reduce that to a more survivable 10 mph and area increases by a factor of 16 to around 100 m^2. = 5.64 m radius or 11.3m dia if circular. Then, there's the bungee parachute ! :-) http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/bungee_parachute.html This could be useful. Haven't checked to see if it agrees with me :-) http://www.psc473.org/howto/MathematicsParachutes.doc E&OE - after all, it's Pi a.m. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist