It sounded like the person was somewhat of a newcomer to the aviation area, and I tried to keep it to generalities. The whole picture of being the pilot of an aircraft is a whole lot of detail, and controlling the aircraft is just a small part. :) Vitaliy wrote: > Carl Denk wrote: > >> I should have included. Minimum safe altitude over congested areas >> (cities) and gatherings of people is 1000' AGL, and 500' other areas, >> except some national parks can be higher. >> > > It's actually "above the highest obstacle" or "structure", not AGL. > > True > >> The congested has been >> interpreted as to include some little towns at times. Besides 1000' AGL >> isn't a lot of time if there is an engine or propeller failure. With no >> power many light planes will decend at more than 500 fpm, which means >> less than 2 minutes. >> > > However, in those two minutes you can cover 2-4 miles. The way I understand > it, the regulations are designed to minimize destruction on the ground by > giving you enough time to select either a suitable runway, or a crash > target. > Agreed There have been pilots cited for being under the 1000' passing over small towns that are only a mile or 2 wide. It's mostly up to the inspector investigating, and who called the F.A.A. > > >> Grand Canyon has a minimum altitude that can be >> over 10,000' altitude. Maximum altitude, over 12,500' need oxygen, over >> 18,000' need air traffic control clearance, be IFR rated plane and pilot. >> > > Do you have a link to these regs? > Airspace diagram http://www.allstar.fiu.edu/aero/airspace.htm FAR 91.135 operations in class A airspace For Grand Canyon, my 3 year old visual (sectional) chart says "CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS (CFR) ... below 18,000 (above is class A) MSL is subject ot special traffic rules. The are special Grand Canyon visual charts, and the pilot always wants to have the current issue as reference. What I remember, we need oxygen at the lowest legal altitude.Also see FAR SFAR No. 50-2 Oxygen FAR 91.211 > Vitaliy > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist