:: However :: others in the UK use mil means millimeter When I worked in for a certain hearing aid and heart pump manufacturer, in the pick and place room or talking with the stencil designers, you'd get 'that component placement is 3 mil off' , and I would ask is that thou or millimetres - I'd either get blank looks or occasionally - 'what's a thou?' The P&P machines used metric for placement and interesting angles - -920 degrees was the one that got me. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 27/07/2009 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359 Don't assume people do things you don't like just to hurt you -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist