>We use machine-pin DIP sockets for exactly that reason - the bottom >of the pins extends well below the plastic that holds the pins in >place. That makes it easy to solder the top-side pads that need soldering. Agreed. I will use only these sockets from a reliability point of view anyway. They also make nice chip carriers for EPROMS and the like, as the solder pin is fine enough to plug into an identical socket. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist