> Nobody contends this. The main point of "contention" seems to be over whether C's weaker points are a result of "ignorant laziness" or "brilliant simplification" (to overstate both sides!) The resulting discussion on the side effects of the result realities has been pretty interesting, and as long as people are insulting languages and their developers rather than each other, there doesn't seem to be the usual motivation to stop... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist