This is a great group to learn everything good and bad about making PCBs Try gel paper or similar products. Binder dissolves in water. I think there are many suppliers of paper that will release toner easily. If you want I will do more research. Gus -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist