Tony Smith wrote: > If the slower product has less bugs and better support, then yeah. > But that's irrelevant, of course you pick the faster one if > everything thing else is equal. And buy a new PC to run it on. It's funny how when someone refutes one statement you make you simply switch to a orthagonal argument. Let's keep in focus that your original statment was: "No-one needs the 'power' that C gives you these days, it's all libraries, web apps and front-ends for SQL databases. You don't need C for that." Looking at that in hindsight it was apparently just trolling. > Reminds that Olin mentions he had to write a program that took a long > time to do a lot of complicated stuff, but never actually mentioned > what he wrote it in. Pascal? ADA? GWBasic? I wrote it in Pascal, which gets translated to C as part of the build process, then compiled with the MSVC compiler for PCs. > More than one company went broke waiting for the assembler > programmers to finish while the HLL (even C counts there) guys beat > them to the market. Fast doesn't matter much anymore unless it's fast > to market. Some people want their stuff to actually work too, which > is rather novel. But low unit cost certainly does matter. I've got a high volume project that needs to be cheap, cheap, cheap. This thing has to periodically send a RF message that includes its 32 bit ID, a few status bits, and a CRC checksum. It also has to send a signature via IR, handle a user button and a LED, compute life left and display it on the LED when asked, and a proprietary wrinkle or two I don't want to get into. This runs on a 10F202 using all 24 bytes of RAM, although a few bits here and there are not used. Stuff that in your C compiler and see what you'd get. No product because it costs to much, I suspect. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist