On Jul 10, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Peter wrote: > Someone meanwhile patented such a thing, obviously after the date of > my having > built the device: > > http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/33roberts_files/Air_Generator_10-136063.html While the patent system has its problems, I can't find any indication that this "patent" was ever actually granted. (For instance, google patent search found it, but only as an "patent application" from 2002.) Even the page you link to doesn't explicitly claim a granted patent. Furthermore, it appears to be a perpetual motion device, which I understand is likely to cause immediate rejection. Surely it is good thing that anyone can SUBMIT a patent, or post a web document that looks like a patent application? BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist