I want a PIC with two ADC inputs ( 10bits ) , 8 GPIO , a timer ...... It can be as slow as molasses. What is crucial to me is that it is $5 or less: that I can pick up a cheep and trivial method of programming it ( $25 ) ; that I can get a cheep development IDE with Basic or C or whatever ($ 25 ) ; that it runs on 3.3 or 5 volts. The bigger the physical size of the pins, the better. DIP is better than SOIC, etc. I want to quickly bang out a really creepy , dirty , data aquisition device that samples two ADC inputs twice per second and talks to another device via SPI ( in, out, clk ) as the slave to a master. There will be no demand on the PIC ; the SPI will be slow ( 1K bit per second ) , with a total traffic of maybe 50 - 100 bits per second ) . The master will not bother the PIC for .25 seconds after asking for status so there is plenty of time to complete an ADC cycle. Gus -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist