>> Almost, but not quite. =A0Are you suggesting they should give away a >> compiler that has no restrictions whatsoever? Zilog gave away a C compiler with their SDks that they had to pay a fee to the software provider for for each one that was registered. They also sold true ICE's at utter bargain basement prices for what they di= d. The processors were also bearably good. Shame about the support and reaction to reported repeatable documented bugs. According to what I read recently, with defections of development staff to form other spinoffs they no longer have enough qualified design staff to produce new silicon. Whether this is true I don't know. (Defection to form spinoffs is a part of Zilog's origins so if it also proves to be their demise it will be poetic). (Their website doen't seem to suggest they are in any way moribund - http://www.zilog.com ) > Actually, I would say yes. I have never understood companies who > expect customers to buy, for a few hundred USD, a tool which simply > makes it easier for that same customer to buy more product. Zilog's approach seemed truly enlightened. They also did (do?) good seminars. Shame about the background support when the going got really tough). R -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist