On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote: >> K+R were in a research setting where they didn't have to care about = >> profit or competitive advantage. They had nothing to loose by = >> letting everyone at it, > > They were in a commercial venue, porting Unix from PDP-7 to PDP-11. = > This is the reason why they created C, as a sort of a portable = > assembler. (This wasn't a research project, it was commercial -- = > they wanted to sell the PDP-11 :) K&R were at Bell Labs, weren't they? While Bell Labs wasn't quite so = bad as (say) Xerox PARC, they were pretty far away from being = "commercial", especially in those days! (Look at how long it took = before Unix became a commercial offering.) And "AT&T wanted to sell [DEC] PDP11s"?? Huh?? > Wirth created Pascal at the ETH in Z=FCrich; not more commercial than = > AT&T, it seems, perhaps less :) Ah, you know those university profs. Their "product" is publication = ("publish or perish"); especially nice because commercial viability is = less of an issue... :-) BillW -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist