> You can't start learning to EE without learning Ohm's low first. The > discussion is senseless. > Why didn't you learn Electricity at school? You seem to be more than > capable to get it. Language problem at that age for the immigration? His major educational field is in the biological sciences. Electronics is a hobby unrelated to his school curriculum. That said, Ohm's law is part of the "MRS GREN" of the electrical world. It is so fundamental to everything that you do that it MUST be learned to the stage where you are comfortable with the implications in real world situations without having to go and look things up. The original question would have benefited from a simple Ohms law analysis - most of the very useful answers that people have given are essentially conveying information that would be intuitively obvious given a basic understanding of the applications of Ohms law in the real world, and even an hour or less playing with a few cheap meters and some LEDs and resistors and a power supply. Such an investment in 'basic research' will not only help you to ask better questions and not attract such adverse comment, but will also - probably more importantly - provide you with some Eureka moments that can't be easily replaced by having people tell you stuff. The non linear V/I relationship of any LED, the reason that LEDs are best current-driven, the point at which they emit coloured smoke, or stop emitting light, the interesting results of reverse bias at about zero current as voltage is increased, and much more, will embed itself usefully in your brain far more easily, and with a far greater sense of satisfaction, than it will by getting answers to very basic questions from other people. Try it, you'll like it. PS: Ohm's law always works, by definition. ie I = V/R. R = V/I. V = IR ie it's essentially a tautology. BUT as noted - for some substances the ratio of V/I (=R) changes with V and or I. R can also changes with temperature, pressure, exposure to EM field etc. For most purposes I = V/R is valid enough to be useful. For semiconductor devices the ratio of V/I can change inmmensely with V. Which is exactly what happens in the LED case being discussed on this thread. Aty say 20 mA an LED may have a Vf of 3.0V, so R = V/I = 150R. However, at 30 mA Vf may be 3.1V. And at 100 mA Vf may be 3.3V. Giving R's of 103 R and 33 R. Clearly R is VERY dependant on V. We don't usually think about this example in these erms, but doing so demonstrates that Ohms law, as it is usually understood, can be easily 'broken' in everyday life. Russell. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist