> And why is it that if you touch a 120 V source, you die - yet a 15000 > V static shock merely stings? The 120V source can deliver current for an unlimited amount of time (or unt= il = the circuit is broken) while the static charge is just as its name implies = - = static. As soon as current begins to flow, the voltage is rapidly decreased= and = all the stored enery in it is used up. You can think of static charge as a charged capacitor (with a very low = capacitance). When the capacitor is discharged it can no longer deliver a = current through the load (your body, for instance). For normal static charg= es, = the capacitance is very low which means that the charge will be discharged = through your body in a matter of pico seconds. If you touch a 10nF capacitor charged to 15000V - It will do a lot more tha= n = merly sting. = When dealing whith static charges (charged capacitors), the charged voltage= in = combination with the capacitance tells you how much energy the capacitor = stores. IEC/EN 61010 states that maximum permissible limits for a capacitan= ce = charged to a voltage above 15000V is 350mJ. Above that it is considered to = be = hazardous live. The energy in a charged capacitor is C*V*V/2 so a capacitor = with a capacitance of more than around 3nF charged to 15000V is considered = unsafe for a human to touch. When you have seen the discharge spark from a = 10nF = capacitor charged to around 15kV and heard the bang it makes, you make sure= to = keep the fingers away. For sources of continuous currents (as opposed to charged capacitors), IEC/= EN = 61010 says that potentials higher than 33VAC rms, 46.7V peak or 70VDC that = can = deliver a current of 0.5mA rms for sinusoidal waveforms, 0.7mA peak for non = sinusoidal waveforms or mixed frequencies or 2mADC when measured through a = circuit representing the impedance of a human body, is concidered to be = hazardous live. So in this sence it is the current that kills and not the = voltage as long as the voltage is above the values above. And in this case = it = doesn't matter if the voltage is 100V or 100000V. /Ruben =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Ruben J=F6nsson AB Liros Electronic Box 9124, 200 39 Malm=F6, Sweden TEL INT +46 40142078 FAX INT +46 40947388 ruben@pp.sbbs.se =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist