Kevin Jones wrote: > The base module that the spark fun device uses is only $35.00 > > http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtqO%252bWUGLBzeMW4TCGBne5E > > and much lower in quantity. However, its a 3.3v device and requires > SMD soldering skills. The extra dollars to spark fun are for a 5v > interface and having already soldered to a board that is easier for > hobbiests to work with. Kevin, I have a feeling that you don't understand what STM4100 is. It is a module that has all the features of the SparkFun DIP (on-board 5V regulator, development-friendly connector), and in addition also has circuitry that allows it to automatically go "bus-off" when a serial or USB cable is plugged into the same circuit. It has a much smaller vertical profile, and requires only a 2x6 2mm header on one side (so it does not intrude as much on the host PCB). You get all this, for only $4.95 more than you would pay for the bare RN41 ($39.95 vs $35), and $20 less than you would pay for the SparkFun module. > However, looking at the bottom picture of the device, I'm not sure > its all that much lower in profile. There are jumpers and connector > on the bottom of the board. The spark fun module is smooth on the > bottom, no components. Here's a picture I just took, of two old lab samples (I apologize for the quality): http://maksimov.org/piclist/sparkfun_vs_stm4100.jpg Notice that the connector on STM4100 is female, and the holes go _through_ the PCB. Sparkfun's module was designed to plug into a breadboard, where space is not an issue. STM4100 was designed to be used in a production device with a very low vertical clearance: http://www.scantool.net/elmscan-5-bluetooth.html I hope it all makes better sense now. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist