On Jul 3, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Mark Rages wrote: > > It was a piece of flaky hardware that started the whole Free > Software movement: > http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch01.html Ah, bullcrap. Everyone gives RMS credit for starting the Free Software Movement, when in fact the computer science community has a long tradition of "open source" that pre-dates GNU and FSF by many years (probably decades.) It's true that the audience was much smaller, and perhaps the authors didn't have "I'll sell this and become filthy rich" mentality, but the US ARMY saw fit to set up a site to host downloads of CP/M freeware and shareware back when RMS was hacking mainframes and Lisp machine that normal people could have cared less about, and DECUS ("Steal from your friends") was founded back when he was still wearing diapers.) MAYBE they helped codify appropriate publication standards for an increasingly commercial and litigious software business environment, and MAYBE they just attached a political agenda. But RMS/FSF did NOT originate the idea of Free Software. (How do you think Wirth's compiler (or Richie's) got around in the first place?) (Sorry. Pet peeve. Grr.) >> and you'd really go looking thru 100s of 1000s of lines of source >> code and spend long hours debugging the ICD2 interface only to find >> out you don't know why it randomly flakes out either, right? Maybe, maybe not. But it's nice to have the opportunity. Even moderately well written code isn't so hard to fix bugs in (or add features/workaround) without having to read/understand the whole thing. Shucks, I've modified programs written in languages that I don't even know how to program in... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist