Olin, They do have a better understanding then I do about the problem but here is= a snippet from Mark. They have identified the problem yet holding it off t= ill MPLAB 10? I have seen quick responses for your own bug fixes. Would you= tolerate such attitude to an "easy fix"? John > From: Mike Harrison > Subject: Re: [PIC] ICD2 as programmer : Why isn't it releasing reset afte= rprogram? > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 2:02 AM > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:20:12 -0400, > you wrote: > > >Bob Axtell wrote: > >> Mike, go back to MPLAB v7.4. > >> > >> The ICDC2 has never worked correctly, for me, on > any version after > >> 7.4 or 7.6. > > > >Or even better, ditch the ICD2 and get a RealICE. = > Those flaky random > >disconnects seem to be gone, and they're cheap enough. > > Just got a reply from the ticket I submitted on this - They > admit they screwed up but can't be > bothered to fix it until MPLAB 10 comes out next year. > Pathetic response for what would be a trivially easy fix. > > > "The change of operation is known, and a result of conflict > between 'Release from Reset' and the > 'Hold in Reset' buttons were not in the correct state when > "run after successful program" was > enabled. This limitation is documented in the MPLAB > ICD2 help overview section. > > The conflict will be resolved when the new MPLAB IDE 10 is > released next year." --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Olin Lathrop wrote: > From: Olin Lathrop > Subject: Re: [PIC] ICD2 as programmer : Why isn't it releasing resetafter= program? > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 7:55 PM > John Chung wrote: > > It helps since we have access to the src code. MPLAB > is propriety > > software. > = > Yeah, and you'd really go looking thru 100s of 1000s of > lines of source code > and spend long hours debugging the ICD2 interface only to > find out you don't > know why it randomly flakes out either, right?=A0 And > Microchip hasn't noticed > or doesn't care about the problem and none of the engineers > that have a lot > more knowledge of the ICD2 than you can possibly have never > tried to find > and deal with the problems?=A0 Then the ICD2 problems > have to be on the host > side.=A0 I actually suspect they have more to do with > the ICD2 to chip > interface than they do with the host to ICD2 interface. > = > Methinks you are protesting on emotional or philosophical > grounds without > any real substance.=A0 Even if you think you have the > knowledge and skill to > track down the problem, it's a long long way to go to avoid > getting a > RealICE. > = > = > ******************************************************************** > Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products > (978) 742-9014.=A0 Gold level PIC consultants since > 2000. > -- = > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > = = -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist