That's in-line with what I'm seeing here. Both for the PIC and for the PSoC. Hi-Tech released a compiler for the PSoC a little back, the free version is much worse than the ImageCraft compiler. We're sticking with the ImageCraft on the PSoC and a much older version of the C compiler for the PIC just so our existing projects can still fit in the chips. I always thought the Omniscient code generation would optimize similar code segments where it would be more feasible to turn them into common subroutines, silly me, it really meant not to generate code by randomly inserting instructions. The Pro version of the compiler knows every possible way to optimize the poor code that the lite version would generate, hence the name. Sly marketing... Lucas -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@MIT.EDU [mailto:piclist-bounces@MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Harrison Sent: July 2, 2009 2:07 PM To: PICLIST@MIT.EDU Subject: Is Hitech C deliberately slugging code in the free version..? I've not used C on a PIC for a while - thought things were rtunning a bit slowly on a 16F818 project. Looked at some code and was staggered by how badly it was generating code for trivial operations A couple of snippets : 313: irtmr1+=bittime2; // bittime 2 is a constant, irtmr1 is a global char 090 300D MOVLW 0xd 091 00F2 MOVWF 0x72 092 0872 MOVF 0x72, W 093 07F8 ADDWF 0x78, F Four instructions where two would do 314: ircnt1++; 094 3001 MOVLW 0x1 095 00F2 MOVWF 0x72 096 0872 MOVF 0x72, W 097 07FC ADDWF 0x7c, F Four instructions where one would do. "Running this compiler in PRO mode, with Omniscient Code Generation enabled, produces code which is typically 52% smaller than in Lite mode." So does 'Omniscient Code Generation' just mean doing things properly? I can't help but think that Microchip shipping something as poorly performing as this, even for free, can't be doing them any favours winning potential customers as it just makes the silicon look bad. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist