:: In fact I'd recommend most people do that. While the "router" :: portion of most ADSL modem/routers is decent, you can get FAR :: better performance and stability using your own router. Hmm since 6am this morning 22 dropouts and it is now 7:13am. What is interesting looking at the log is that the Linksys free RAM decreases. My setup is Linksys WAG54G set up as ADSL modem is connected to the phone line (this is a NAKED DSL line) the gateway address for the router is fixed by the ISP as is my static IP. My Draytek Vigor 2820Vn has two WAN ports WAN 1 for ADSL connections and WAN 2 and USB for anyother WAN type - both can co-exist. The Draytek ADSL internal modem is disabled so the Linksys is connected to the WAN 2 port. The Draytek is DHCP server If I plug the phone line into WAN 1, I get no disconnects and the SNR is about 13dB with a down line attenuation of 42dB. The Linksys SNR (they call it Downstream Margin) varies between -5 and +5dB with an occasional excursion upto 12dB - attenuation is 44dB The Tech Support will not consider my argument that the large variation in SNR between the two devices when connected direct to the phone line is so large that the Linksys is either faulty or has a poor front end modem design. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 2/07/2009 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359 Don't assume people do things you don't like just to hurt you -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist