:: If all the vertically rotating washing machines were :: replaced by typical horizontally rotating ones, the savings would :: be as much if not more. Coming from Europe I was surprised to find how entrenched top loading WM's were in Australia - though front loaders are becoming more popular now. One of the reasons given is 'It means I have to bend down' (which is a bit like the queensland/WA excuses for not having summertime hours - 'the extra sunblight would fade the curtains' ). Bendix under one of their secondary labels used to market a horizontal drum (aimed at the Japanese markets small kitchen needs) that was accessed in the same way as a top loader, thereby combining the best of both worlds. Sadly they only provided it in a 5kg size and never really marketed it here, and the price didn't help. I would have liked a Dynex WM the one with the counter rotating drums and all made out of plastic - sadly it was never imported to Oz and is now not produced - it also used very little water - my Asko is 15 years old and still going strong. Yes, that is a deliberate play on words. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 25/06/2009 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist