> I pointed out that these > folks should > be considered "sales types", hoping to convey that they didn't think like > engineers and might be motivated differently. Perhaps to some, To my simple view of the world there are only about 4 things that motivate people. Money, Food, Power and Sex. These four commodities are traded on a daily basis. If you have enough of any one, you can get the other 3. I'll admit maybe I am stuck with an engineering mentality and can't really see what you are trying to accomplish. I would think that "Sales Types" are motivated similarly. I'm probably missing the point somewhere. > When asked if I should just just drop > them from the > list and move on, each said 'no'. They are probably trying to be polite. Drop a few from the list and see how many contact you and "ask" to be put back on. > I don't have resources for a usability lab, but I must assume > that something in > the process is causing embarrassment or perhaps is bringing a > skill shortage to > their attention and causing dissonance. Each will be different > though, and no > one can be expected to stand up and say, "hey, I'm stupid".... > That's why I'm > looking for unique approaches, not examples of self-centered > personalities. My > goal is to minimize that gap between their electronic skills and what is > required to get the data, however simplistic it may be. To an already > annoyed-at-having-to-use-the-pc person, popups can be bad, so the > solution has > to approach that gingerly. If these people are "already annoyed-at-having-to-use-the-pc", then maybe the telephone or personal contact is best to gather the data. Good luck to you Skip. -- Mark -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist