Olin Lathrop wrote: > I haven't found any way to predict quality of instruction. I go with > topics > that interest me or are relevant to what I'm doing or think I might do. That's what I've done. I was hoping, though, that the same classes would be taught by the same instructors. I took a signal conditioning class that used an inverted pendulum system for demonstration (1384 SCE) last year. It was taught by a guy with a British (?) accent. Even though it was a "filler" class for lack of a better alternative, I thoroughly enjoyed it. My partner attended the 1383 PGN class, and he said there was lots of very useful info for proper PCB layout. > My > only general rule is to stay away from the hands on classes. You get half > the information in twice the time, and things inevitably get held up > because > someone's ICD2 doesn't work right or whatever. Even if things do go > right, > all the hands on parts I have tried are so cookbook to be useless. Yes, I > can copy that piece of code from that other file into this template, but > doing that exactly their way using the MPLAB editor on their machines with > their setup doesn't teach me anything. > > Unfortunately there are many of these hands on classes, so you will find > some topics you'd really like to hear about only taught that way. When I > do > attend one, I just sit and watch and let someone else use a workstation. > That actually makes it easier to learn the topic because you aren't > distracted by the details of what keystrokes do what in a editor you never > plan to use. True. We do use MPLAB IDE for development, so it wasn't a total waste for me last year -- I ended up learning a few tricks. > The other thing I do a lot at Masters is to browse around. If I don't > like > a class, I leave and look around at the posters to see what else is going > on. Signing up for classes is only so that Microchip can plan the size of > room and number of sessions a class is taught. You are free to walk in > and > out of any class at any time. If I go into a class I didn't sign up for > and > find it's full, I understand I may have to stand in the back so as not to > take a seat from someone that did sign up. The hard part is keep the > Microchip folks from getting up and trying to give you their seat. It > seems > a edict went around that a Microchip person must always yield their seat > to > a paying customer when it's standing room only. Most classes have room > though. > > Standing in the back also makes it easy to bug out if the talk is boring > or > the speaker can't speak english. Yes that happens. There was a guy last > year who clearly knew what he was talking about in regards to RF antennas, > but his accent was so thick that I wasn't getting anything out of the > class, > so I left. I was in that class, it was taught not by Microchip, but by an outside company -- correct? The accent wasn't that bad, IIRC -- maybe you just needed to move up closer so you could hear him better. :-) Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist