Was wandering around the CCS site within the past few days and came across this: http://www.ccsinfo.com/content.php?page=tagConnect Is anyone using these? Right now I leave an empty 6 pin header place on board (I pre-program the pics before they go on the board), and will either use one of those DIP test connector things or solder the header in place if I need to program a chip after the fact. This looks like it might be simpler... assuming it works. -forrest -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist