I wonder if some fancy playing with ultrasonic sensors or maybe microwave detector might work? Ultrasonics can be used as windspeed detectors, so maybe nulling out ambient wind speed would leave 'draft' speed from rock holes. Microwave tx and rx'ing might work the same? Circuit Cellar had an article on using the Parallax thermopile a few months ago. The problem with a thermopile would be that you'd need to calibrate it so it didn't respond to the background material. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 17/04/2009 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist